A facebook Conversation About Homelessness

  • It Started with a video  Fay was frustrated about people who enable self sabotage and homelessness. considering her opinion is so conservative her bio is very liberal.  You can see it here https://www.facebook.com/TheFayDayShow/ .
    Suzanne Lynn Huffman Please look at research from reliable sources, not anecdotes or your own observations.
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    • Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Cite your source I have managed positively this population from research have you? What evidence. Do you have that your “research works” it’s not looking good.
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    • Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Housing first is great utopia, no evidence it works. Nice theory though. The same percentage of people are on the street using this high cost programs over the past few years of implementing it.. all it does is embed entitlement deeper so the industry of homelessness gets bigger. Show me it’s better in any city in America..
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    • Victor Reppeto Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Housing first does work if it includes support and supported employment. Workforce Oregon is frustrated because they get jobs for people and they don’t last but a few months. Need to meet meet people half way to set them up for success. Like you said it is frustrating to have a tenant dropped in my lap and then all the support that was supposed to be there does not materialize.
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    • Suzanne Lynn Huffman Victor Reppeto I don’t know any advocate who wants housing along. But wrap-around services must be person-centered, and not based on what service providers assume people need based on generalizations. Here’s an excerpt from an excellent fact sheet http://endhomelessness.org/…/housing-first-fact-sheet.pdf
      “Does Housing First work?
      There is a large and growing evidence base demonstrating that Housing First is an effective solution to homelessness. Consumers in a Housing First model access housing faster and are more likely to remain stably housed. This is true for both PSH and rapid re-housing programs. PSH has a long-term housing retention rate of up to 98 percent.vi Studies have shown that rapid re-housing helps people exit homelessness quickly—in one study, an average of two months—and remain housed. A variety of studies have shown that between 75 percent and 91 percent of households remain housed a year after being rapidly re-housed.
      More extensive studies have been completed on PSH finding that clients report an increase in perceived levels of autonomy, choice, and control in Housing First programs. A majority of clients are found to participate in the optional supportive services provided,ix often resulting in greater housing stability. Clients using supportive services are more likely to participate in job training programs, attend school, discontinue substance use, have fewer instances of domestic violence, and spend fewer days hospitalized than those not participating.

      Finally, permanent supportive housing has been found to be cost efficient. Providing access to housing generally results in cost savings for communities because housed people are less likely to use emergency services, including hospitals, jails, and emergency shelter, than those who are homeless. One study found an average cost savings on emergency services of $31,545 per person housed in a Housing First program over the course of two years. Another study showed that a Housing First program could cost up to $23,000 less per consumer per year than a shelter program.”

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    • Victor Reppeto Suzanne Lynn Huffman I agree with your point about it needing to be client centered. We need to ask them what their needs are and take that into serious consideration as a team.
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    • Suzanne Lynn Huffman Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh respectfully, please share the source of your data that concludes that “the same percentage of people are on the street using this high cost programs over the past few years of implementing it.. all it does is embed entitlement deeper so the industry of homelessness gets bigger.”
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  • Victor Reppeto I’m disabled. I can lift my bike onto the bike rack but I have to get creative to get it down. It is despair I feel when I think about the times I have been accused of not being disabled, or even been told so what! We are all in pain! I cant walk fSee More
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    • Victor Reppeto I was a landlord too. My units were low income. There is plenty of money in that market.
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    • Victor Reppeto What will that do to actually get people into a house? That bill will cause a house to be built that we can get them into. Why is that a tough question for you? There is a huge lack of housing.
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    • Victor Reppeto Let our yes be yes and our no be no? You are not saying yes or no, you are saying don’t feed the bears. They are not bears, they are people.
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    • Victor Reppeto Do your part. Okay, I have to agree with that part. There is a lot we can do for ourselves. It is hard some times because it is so depressing to be kicked like a dog so often but there a few good days and if we take advantage of them to do what we cSee More
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    • Victor Reppeto You know I just finished writing all these comments and I just realized your are a member of the coalition. This video is so bad that I was sure you were just another angry store owner downtown. What I heard you say is “I’m upset about the money I See More
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    • Lauri Rose Victor Reppeto if you notice, toward the end of the video she starts telling all of us how we are all doing nothing snd we are mentally ill too!!!
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    • Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Victor Reppeto I relate to pain, but I am responsible for my own life no one else, broken and alone a yeah ago with a broke shoulder I would have liked to give up. It’s not an option. Overcoming obstacles is hard, and our job as humans. It’s how we teSee More
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    • Victor Reppeto Fay De Meyer-AunspaughSo you find it frustrating to see people that don’t help themselves the way you did. But you were helped. You were helped just enough that the resources you could muster were enough to get you the rest of the way to where you arSee More
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    • Victor Reppeto Lindsay Bigelow Your post has my name at the beginning and Lorrie Walkers name at the end. I am confused.
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    • Victor Reppeto It is just more proof that Elvis lives! he is just using FayDay as a pseudonym! Lol! To be serious, Her video and words represent another opportunity to connect with people. If we listen we can reflect how she feels and what she needs and that we See More
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    • Victor Reppeto Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh One of the lessons we teach children is how to ask for help when we need it. We do this because we can accomplish together what is impossible to accomplish individually. Why would we teach this lesson if we are going to just saSee More
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    • Victor Reppeto Lauri Rose Yes. I noticed.
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    • Victor Reppeto Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh I envy you. 1. you have two legs. 2. you have enough intrinsic motivation to get you going in the morning. Mine is fleeting. Sometimes I have it, sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I feel very guilty about that. Sometimes I feel ashamed. For most of my life I white knuckled it and held on long enough to put together an estate. At this age things are getting more difficult and I am more like to give myself permission to take the day off and wait for day when the motivation has returned.
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  • Elizabeth Frank An individual may be classified as being unable to lift 5 pounds, and you will still see them pushing their belongings around. Lifting 5 pounds is often viewed in disability terms as unable to repetitively lift 5 pounds such as would be required in a jSee More
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    • Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Elizabeth Frank I appreciate this perspective and there are severely disabled people working at what they can do. What ever we believe about our abilities is what we live. Every human move away from pain and toward pleasure, but when they realize that pain is for their good it’s better than the pain that keeps the exposed to Buse, harsh weather. And lacking3in purpose.
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  • Tonya Sharr I never said a a anything about pushing basket or carts which I don’t and unable to do and no you can’t go by appearances right now I have a sinus infection and with the vomiting I’m doing because of my hiatel.hernia my neck back and shoulders hurt so bad I can barely move everyone has good days and bad days..
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  • Victor Reppeto “More than anything, believing that anyone can be categorized entirely as an inconvenience is a toxic viewpoint that only creates a self-defeating agenda.” https://www.facebook.com/invisiblepeopletv/posts/10159569511416038
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    • Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh Victor Reppeto so Victor I hear you . How do you think we could solve the problem of…Affordable housing, addiction and mental health issues…that results in unsheltered families suffering? Any solution focus welcome. Everyone know the problem but are too afraid to tackle…
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    • Victor Reppeto Fay De Meyer-Aunspaugh What can you do or what can I do or what can we do?
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    • Victor Reppeto I am patient and I see some good work coming down the pipe.
      Keeping in mind the this population represents an untapped resource then I have some ideas as someone who counts myself among their numbers. Can you write a grant? Funding to offer stipends to the homeless … offer them so much per cart load of garbage brought to a central location. We already do this via the bottle bill we just need to expand it. In this central location we can pay more of them in a supported work environment to convert all that is plastic in to pellets or oil as a raw material for manufactures and all that is burnable into stove pellets. We can expand this into other enterprise in order to have a number of jobs for them to choose from. We can collect grant money from the state via cap and trade to subsidize the price of the raw materials we offer in order to compete on the open market. With this income stream then we can develop nearby this place to provide free camping. Infrastructure for the campground can be built by the residents such as composting toilets, a digester where methane can be harvested for heating, cooking and electrical generation This campground provides the opportunity to promote self governance tools, connect people with services and begin to build supported housing. In my opinion We don’t have to build it and we should not for many, we should use the Habitat for Humanity model for everyone we can. Only offering this opportunity to people for their first home is a barrier that needs to be removed. Micro loans for business opportunities needs to be more available as well. Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Salem has a model that has been successful for many years. Just thinking out loud. The city may not listen to me but they definitely will not if I don’t send them this suggestion. Thank you again for asking a question at a perfect moment to take advantage of my fleeting motivation to write things down.
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  • Lauri Rose Nobody will listen to you as long as you are being so patronizing and judgemental, how about that?
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  • Beth Fritz I believe it has to do with all of the above. It seems to be a reap once it happens it is so hard to climb out of. Housing is so expensive and it costs a small Fortune to move into a place.
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  • Lauri Rose I can’t see anyones comments in response to my comments… 😆
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  • Anna Bullard Fay – I messaged you my response

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